Submission Holds Discussions

I dont like it! Its dangerous and you must know how to recover from it! I train bjj and one of my biggest fears is to be choked out or do it to someone. Ill never do it in a private match for sure!

I'm with you there man. I do bjj twice a week, and i dont like being choked either.

I love a little BJJ

Hmm sounds interesting id be kinda keen to try it

I love being choked out myself and doing it as well. Point of safety though if you guys don't know how to do it or haven't done it before please go to the Gracie's website and watch their video on proper technique proper pressure proper amount of time it should take. And be mindful of your opponent and let go immediately after they pass out. Can't stress enough Gracie's website they have the video due to the amount of injuries kids were doing to each other in playing passing out games

the MF chat #wrestlingraplling is still going and can accomodate chats on BJJ or other choking forms of wrestling , etc

I also want to add that you should practice this with your opponent before the match if it's your first time. Just reading and seeing about it doesnt help as much as actually doing it. It's a lot more safer to practice with them before.

Absolutely correct, safety first.

I like to use a choke as a finisher when I'm done beating the dude down with pain and punishment and bare fist punches. I don't like quick submissions makes match too quick I like em drawn out.

Yeah sounds good

Sounds brutal, beat em down till they’re helpless then choke em,

Choking is very dangerous unless one has special training on applying a choke hold.

Very true, learned that In jujitsu class tonight, makes me nervous

Oh no. You are taking ju-jitsu classes? I am in trouble now!

Sounds like fun to Me -

This jobber loves being choked out, being beat down with pain and punishment in long drawn out matches painauthority. :)

I'm ready to choke anyone that wants to be choke out bring it on cuz

I would like it if your choked me out couple of times and in between do what you like

i would like to get choked out

I would love to choke you out

This thread is really disturbing. Being choked out by some dude you met on the internet, who may not even know how to do the hold correctly... just might be better left to your imagination than trying it in real life. Be careful, guys.

Second that
The idea of being choked by a guy who really has no idea of the amount of pressure to use disturbs me.
This would and could result in brain damage and/or fatality.
Instead of a fetish act ,which it sounds like to me , rather than a controlled wrestling move. Your end up with an assault charge if it goes wrong and you have to cal for ambulance or even worse a manslaughter charge if the guy giving hold gets to aggressive.
Just get on the mat and fight

What kind of man would let a inexperienced goof lock him up in a choke hold . If he's that stupid , he deserves what comes , maybe he'll learn quick what he should do and not do . Me and & My wrestle & scuffle buddies use all the holds , including chokes. 1 Never l holds a man in it once u feel him weaken and/or goes limp. Sounds to Me like inexperienced dumb-asses messin in areas they should NOT be playin around in .
I like when a buddy can take Me down and choke Me to submission. Makes Me work harder when we spar around. When a guy goes limp or gets body stiff , he is out , release the pressure straighten his neck , he'll come-to right away. If you hear him wheezz , 'ease up ' You are Not using pressure trying to break his neck just a quick stop of blood flow , 3to 7 seconds , ( it can be done with two fingers ! ) he'l be out , or close enough he's down and helpless . Geeezzz, Use some common sense .
If he stops moving , he is out Try it on your-self. You can press on the veins or blood vessels in ur neck , u can feel a lightness as some as u apply a little pressure . Try it on yourself , u'll feel it . See if u can put ur self out , lol, 9 times out of 10 u can't . You release your touch way before u go out.
Most every time I've been choked out or 'down' I have a mind flash or 'dream' , only for a few seconds , but it's a wild experience. I trust very few guys to sleeper Me out and u can bet I've sleepered them first. TALK ABOUT IT FIRST, AND what should happen and when to release. Some guys , a few , give no sign they are out , they just lay there , Others twitch or go body stiff. Use a large mirror, where ya can see what's going on Again use a little Sense or try it with a guy you know and trust and preferable done it before OR Don't Play. I started neck play when I was in grade school with My best friend , we were wrestling, he choked Me down , made Me submit , then he released Me . From then on , we play hard and to the submission or choke out. Still do ---
This is just our game and the way we do it .
Find what works for you .

So... a sleeper attempts to slow blood flow. A choke attempts to slow/stop air flow. And once someone "goes out" they don't always come to without neurological damage. The process by which they lose consciousness is related to a decrease in oxygen to the brain, which REALLY loves oxygen and sugar. A decrease is all it takes for an anoxic brain injury to occur. I know a kid who suffered the same in their early 20's and became, for lack of a better term, brain dead. This occurred while training in mma under experienced coaching.

I just wanted to offer this PSA: it's a dangerous thing no matter what, training does NOT make it safe. Be sure to talk this one through with your opponent and that you're both aware of the risk.

You are absolutely 100% correct Redlandguy

I agree with you, buddies, but I have found that lots of my wrestling friends ( me included) are fascinated by the feeling to be trapped in this hold!

Right on! Even if it is meant as fantasy play, so guys are unable to sort real life hazards from fantasy play being carried out on the mats. Understand some new guy trying the stuff the see too often on TV and the Internet – warranting a lot of neck strengthening work; but long-term guys can go in wrong and put force on the Adam's apple as well. I love working with new guys; but I warn them about chokes, cranks, joint bending before we have a go at it.

What he said. Though someone might work on an algorithm that tracks interest/desire to be choked out (rather than readiness to face a rear naked choke or other hold) with fight activity/participation. Men who have been on the receiving end of any choke tend to tap fast or seek to avoid a revisit.

Agreeing with what scotsgrappler said about quick taps when in a choke. Absolutely. I have found that being choked is really really draining. I can generally go for hours when wrestling the right guy, but getting choked out increases my recovery time significantly. So I prefer to tap out early - and get right back in there fighting.

Agree, even if it's largely fantasy talk, that is more for one to one and longer negotiation, so be safe.The groups might be for the more general chat ?
There are perhaps still some newbies here?

Here, here . agreed.Yes true, if its not largely fantasy talk?

I'm willing to try choking you out

i would like to get choked out

I'll choke you out

lets do it big guy

I'm ready whenever you are

I would love to chock you out

ID LIKE TO SEE THAT BOW' THEN U AND ME

Let's find out who going to choke who out

hopefully it makes me cum without knowing it

This jobber here in the Kansas City, MO area would love to have you choke me out bowolverine as well as dominate me in the ring.

I 'd sure like to choke you out, you being a big guy, a few well placed low punches , then just roll and punch a bit, yeah , then,I really would like to slowly sleeper you , Repeatedly....
Just have a little fun...

Sounds fun, me next

Man lets fight

I'm ready for you to wrestle

Stevie
Won't be long before we can have our ko match

Choke you out and shave your chest

Bring it on cuz

The thing I love the most in submissions is choke holds. I just totally love watching a ufc fight or some bjj tournatment where the guy gets choked out cold! Putting a guy to sleep is SO HOT. It's like the other guy is the real Alpha male and he is not the pathetic BITCH.

I would like to try getting choked out myself in a fight. Any guys want to fight me and try to choke me out? Or if not I will choke you out? I'm in the NYC Area

I'll put you in a chokehold

Totally agree with you on this, choke/sleepers are the the best I think. In all the various positions/ways of doing it. The alpha feeling like an alpha for putting it on just right where you go out quick, and then taking their trophy - however you agreed. Wish I was closer to you sleeperholdsmma. So, would love to practice give and take with you.